I Just Gotta Get In There

 

Colleton House FireUndoubtedly this post will take a lot of heat from the jumpseat heroes who " Just Gotta Get in There ". It appears that while firefighters are working very diligently in keeping the " Culture of Extinguishment " Alive, we continue to encounter another problem. On our Fire Ground today agencies are getting smarter and using more Auto/ Mutual Aid to provide for better staffing on the scene; However our on scene management is one that is going to lead to serious INJURY OR DEATH! Firefighters are continuing to rush into structures seemingly not realizing the potential problems they cause. So let's look at them.

Over Crowding- While operating in a 1200 Sq Ft ranch how many firefighters are needed to search and conduct fire attack? At best 8 firefighters to fulfill interior roles of Attack Line, Back Up Line, Search Group unless you have multiple divisions. So why must the entire 16 out of 20 firefighters " Just Gotta Get IN". In the given scenario if a hostile fire event takes place and firefighters need to retreat what is the likely hood o them all getting out? In dwellings with multiple divisions and even below grade settings, how much weight is being added to the flooring systems?. If using PPV as your ventilation tactic how much air flow are you really getting? Firefighting last I checked is not a reaction profession but yet a thinking and problem solvers profession, that requires common sense and skill. So the next time you " Just Gotta Get In There " Hold Your Position! Think are you benefiting the overall outcome of the operation are you just looking for some " Tactical Entertainment "

2 Comments

  • Chris says:

    I got no problem with this.  You're absolutely correct: there are times when "stomping the fire out" with all the boots that are in the building seems to be the method of extinguishment.

    We've recognized this issue and company officers are now more proactive in requesting no more companies inside buildings with confined or small areas.

  • Jesse says:

    But if I don’t get inside I can’t take that great selfie to show my girlfriend!

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Firefighter Basics launched in February 2009 after Founder/Editor Marques Bush was looking for a way to express himself and share his experiences with brother and sister firefighters. Shortly after founding the site Marques spoke with several trusted friends and ask them to come on board and contribute also. Firefighter Basics is a dedicated group of firefighters who strive everyday to practice what they preach about Training, Safety, and Tradition.  We can be reached at firefighterbasics@gmail.com

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Ryan McGovern (Ladder Jack)
Ideology vs Philosophy: Are you Slicing or Dicing in the fire service trends
Marques, As I have been following this debate for the past few weeks, and looking for the best way to respond, I could find no "correct" way to join the conversation without maybe coming off as narrow-minded. The response you have here says exactly what I believe is the best way to approach the SLICER/…
2014-12-03 00:41:24
Fyrfyter19
The next big thing…or just another acronym?
Though hitting a fire from the outside lowers the temperature in the room, it raises it closer to the floor. I've been a firefighter for 14 years and work for an inner city department. You'd better be damn sure there are no victims in the structure anywhere near where those heated gasses are going to…
2014-11-24 17:54:49
LeRoy Burlingame
Ideology vs Philosophy: Are you Slicing or Dicing in the fire service trends
I found that firefighters do more calls than just structure fires, so with that I've established an acronym I use and teach others in my company. FIRE; First unit, Identify, Resources, Evaluate. It's simple and can't be used for any type of call. I know it won't ever catch like SLICERS but it works. First…
2014-11-20 20:22:06
Al waters
Ideology vs Philosophy: Are you Slicing or Dicing in the fire service trends
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2014-11-20 01:28:05
anchorpoint1
The next big thing…or just another acronym?
As you can most likely tell, I am in favor of the questioning. Thank you for your concern, but I am not offended. This arena does not lend itself kindly to the soft skinned. The purpose of this site is the discussion. Seeing how other departments operate and comparing that to how your department operates.…
2014-11-17 00:21:17

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