RIT and a little challenge tossed in.

Ok† folks, here we go. We all or most have been hit by less manpower, because we all know we can do more with less. For those of that run with a 3 person company, (Driver, Boss, and a Firefighter) no real challenge here. For those who have 5 or 6 member teams here is the challenge. My company just went through this, we had an acquired†structure, through a neighboring FD, but be creative! Three member company as RIT, now take one out to be the victim, two out right? Mayday called, the two member team, equipped with a TIC, RIT bag, and at least a tool, goes in after the downed FF, this downed FF is on the second floor or basement, ours was on the second floor. Drill and Challenge Time!!

1. Do your members know how to call a Mayday and When to call? You might be surprised.

2. Building construction and layout of the structure, confusing?

3. Can two members handle this job?

4. Composure, think about it

5. Radio Traffic

Bosses need not be a victim! Train your folks, show some leadership ability or don’t see what happens. Brothers will more than two members, try this with two, as they say, see how the other half-lives!

Enjoy, can’t wait to hear from all ranks, Be Safe, this is to make us think, not get us hurt!

2 Comments

  • Dave LeBlanc says:

    1. Do your members know how to call a Mayday and When to call? You might be surprised.

    We have trrained with this a lot, but I am sure there is a signigifcant spread as to how well it will be done. UCAN or LUNAR…….what everyone needs to remember is that you may only get once chance to get your message out, and listening is just as if not more important.

    2. Building construction and layout of the structure, confusing?

    We all should have a good idea of the layouts of the “typical” buildings in our areas, but what about the odd ball houses? Or the ones with renovations or changes. Use the routine responses to learn these structures, the life you save may be your own.

    3. Can two members handle this job?

    Short answer, no freaking way. IF ti was a “simple” lost/disoriented and a small house, maybe. If there is any heavy lifting, complex search, or significant debris……it is not going to happen. Not to mention if the MAYDAY firefighter is a bigger firefighter.

    Phoenix Fire learned this with Brett Tarver and then spent a year training on it afterward. http://phoenix.gov/FIRE/report.pdf Here is a link to the report. Take the time to read it and learn.

    2 firemen should be able to find the downed fireman and ensure an air supply, but for the rescue you will need more help.

    4. Composure, think about it

    This job is all about composure. If you can’t keep your cool as the MAYDAY fireman, then you are reducing the chances for a successful rescue. If the IC can’t keep his composure, then the rescue effort is going to be a challenge. If the rescuers are loosing their minds…well you get the point.

    How we say we will react and how we actually react may be markedly different. However if we continue to drill and practice these scenarios then hopefully muscle memory will kick in.

    5. Radio Traffic

    This will be the topic of an upcoming blog…..but often it is too much, unimportant, and could be handled face to face. The advent of the cell phone has some members using their radios the same way.

    “five words or less” is a favorite quote of mine from a good friend who is a Deputy Chief. Keep it short and relevant. Order your pizza on your cell phone.

    Certainly the more scenarios we can train for the better prepared we should be. Good topic and info.

  • drillmaster2 says:

    Dave, great comments. I’ll add some of the rest. Mr. Murphy showed up!
    1. My victim gave the wrong location wrong.
    2. My partner had a mask leak and his bell went off immediately after we found the down member, but we had him on air.
    This was not intentional, however, stresses the need for several key things we don’t train on nearly enough.
    Have at all of this my friends.

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